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nick pope is probably in this one

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that's not something we really expected

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hey what's up everybody it's emmett and

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joe we're the ufo bros and we're here

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with executive producer

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andrew knock and this is the man

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who put together unidentified with demi

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lovato which is streaming now on peacock

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right now we might happen to be in the

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premiere episode so make sure you check

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that out yeah and we're going to go

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through some stories we're going to ask

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andrew like all kinds of great questions

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and uh first of all thank you for being

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with us we're really so welcome thank

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you for having me on the show i'm big

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really he's big fans wow wow you and

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dallas i reached out to you guys to be

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on the show remember oh that's right

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we want to know you know our story

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how about you do people know how you got

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this crazy paranormal world we're in

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so uh i grew up in the north of england

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castles and stately haunted mansion so i

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weird kind of like history medieval

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along with that is a lot of folklore you

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wrap itself around this massive hill

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in where i grew up and the hill's still

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pyramid-shaped hill

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knight had to like dress in like spiked

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armor and fight the lampton worm and he

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rejoin itself so he had to like take it

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into the river and then he could chop

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into pieces and then the river would

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flush away the different sections of the

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sheep were saved so it's i grew around

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these really weird kind of legends like

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that and it just really

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spoke to me this history this mystery

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arthur c clarke's mysterious world

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and it aired in like 1980 and articy

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clark who was the author of 2001. uh

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and he had crews go all over the world

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speaking to people who had first-hand

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accounts of sasquatch the yeti ufos

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reigning frogs crystal skulls all the

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classics that people are still doing

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on all the channels he did it first you

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whole kind of thing for me and i started

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just working in the paranormal genre

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you know it's it's fun it's fascinating

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it's fun and you know it's uh it's

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controversial you know

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mysterious like you're talking about you

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a neighbor who had a haunted house and

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these tapes by the way i wish i could

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get them they were pretty creepy she

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cassette tape every time she left her

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house bertha bertha oh my god that was

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the creepy [\h__\h] and you would hang

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record it leave the house and then all

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investigation pretty much paranormal

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you've worked on um

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so many shows and i want to talk about

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unidentified with demi lovato which is

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why we're here yes

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such a huge name behind it will you tell

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us a little bit about what

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inspired you to take this direction with

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the show because it's young it's fun

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it's fresh it's it's a little brighter

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than the normal take on paranormal and

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ufo stuff what do you think

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entertainment that's jd roth and adam

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experience in the genre and said look

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we can't make this like of the ufo shows

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and those shows are great and i love

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those types of shows demi believes that

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they have had contact conscious contact

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with some sort of entities that are out

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there they may seen ufos on at least

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three occasions and when demi was with

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uh the crew and myself we definitely had

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some encounters that you'll see in the

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audience people of color it was just

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like it was such a great opportunity you

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followers on instagram it's 115 now

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followers and so that's just a huge

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exposed to the subjects who may not

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perfect example is their best friend

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about the stuff i mean that was his kind

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of attitude at the beginning he has

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he got became interested and he became

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figured everyone in

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interest in this too he's kind of like

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the gateway to demi because danny's a

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full-on believer and matthew's kind of

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relationship and you can see that he

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wants to experience what demi's

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demi doesn't really know what's going on

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damie has their own ideas and has

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consulted with many ufo uh experts i

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think people in the field will be

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surprised at how many people demiu's has

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interactions with i mean like dinners

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demi so that was another thing that i

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project it would may be easier to

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beatles went to go visit the maharishi

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doing and that's where denny is at right

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other side and this has really given

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opportunity to bring in a more spiritual

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the phenomena and get people

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crowd in there they can get excited

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about it and you know it's i think it's

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this sort of narrative how they want

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the ufo world to appear or how they want

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these shows how are they how these shows

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special about ufos um and

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while it's well i love all the people

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involved uh you know the speak sort of

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speaking heads of ufology i love them

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but

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um they're not sitting on kelly clarkson

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this morning

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talking about ufos do you hear kelly

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clarkson and seth meyers and i mean i'm

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talking these people that

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are the most relatable people are it was

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just wild to see demi sitting there

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talking about it when i don't think

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kelly clarkson as an example that

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doesn't become part of her normal day i

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would imagine and i would imagine so for

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everybody else because we're in our

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phones we're in our

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when you know we got to get to soccer

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practice it's tea time you know i feel

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like you know

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there's been a lot of ufo shows on tv as

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you know yeah i've done some of them and

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to me this was an opportunity just to do

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a different style show

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you know it's we could have driven area

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51 instead of the gate we could have

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talked about government cover-ups and it

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just felt like let's do something more

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of a spiritual consciousness angle that

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people aren't really talking about i

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know someone some people might say well

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that feels kind of woo-woo or magical

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but if there are higher beings out there

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then it makes sense that they are on a

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different level of intelligence or

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consciousness than us you know so it

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didn't seem

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out there to me it seemed like it just

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felt like a different way of doing it

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you know and especially

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if you relate that to things like in in

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ancient cultures they all saw

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these extraterrestrial beings as

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spirits from the sky that came down

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exactly you know sky star people sky

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people you know

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they all have tales of

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people coming down on like you know mini

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pyramids called the ben ben stone and

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it's all documented on the walls of like

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you know temple of you know seti and

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things like that and you know it's i

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just feel like you know the younger

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generation are more open-minded to

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something like that and more interested

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in the subject and not just talk about

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government cover-ups again yeah i think

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that doesn't resonate to a younger

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generation they want to take back the

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narrative

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i love that i just want to say too

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really in the ufo world it's a full

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spectrum

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everything from the nuts and bolts

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aspect to the you know the flying

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machines and you know people measuring

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pixels about the tic tac and you know

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they go down that rabbit hole but

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there's so much more that frankly in

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some shows they don't

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really like to get into and it was so

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great like

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whatever people feel about there's

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something in the show that everybody can

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have a pathway into the topic

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and

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so it's all encompassing but

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so we have sort of the you know like

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you're talking about i would say

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um

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you know the higher extraterrestrial

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sort of being perspective being

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connected spiritually but you also

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filmed hard

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evidence

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that's not something we we really

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expected

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to do you know this is something that as

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a producer that you hope for and you're

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kind of panicking about because you know

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it's like

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there's no guarantee of capturing

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anything when you go out you know i went

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out with ben hansen for like eight

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episodes doing ufo witness and we

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weren't able to capture anything

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on this series we were lucky enough to

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capture i think

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like three instances of something

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traveling through the sky that moved

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erratically so so it's not a plane

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certainly not a satellite if it's

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something else

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you know i'm i'm happy to hear about

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what it could be

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but it in the moment it was it was

387
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pretty amazing i think people can you

388
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know you were there for the first one

389
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the very first day we were filming

390
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which was uh which was amazing yeah well

391
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do you have what would you say that

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would be like a life changing experience

393
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or was there any time doing any of these

394
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ufo shows that was life changing at all

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for me

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yeah

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um

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you know i've been doing this for a long

399
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time and i always come from a skeptical

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point of view

401
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and i have to say when we went to sedona

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and we did the sky watch there with the

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mass meditation session where tens of

404
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thousands of demise

405
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followers were meditating at the same

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time we had that neon pyramid on top of

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the mountain

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beautiful by the way

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thank you yes and elizabeth april was

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there and she was she was

411
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fantastic

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we all saw stuff in the sky

413
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now when you see the show it's not easy

414
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to see some of it because you can it's a

415
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lot easier to take still photography or

416
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time lapses of night sky even something

417
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as brilliant and bright as sedona

418
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shooting in video it's not quite it

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doesn't

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but i can tell you we all saw stuff the

421
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grips sourced up the sound grunt the

422
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grumpy sound guys all stuff you know it

423
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wasn't just demi and their friends in

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the pyramid across the flag

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everyone was like

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what the f is that including myself

427
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there was things moving in the sky

428
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and you know

429
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you think i should have whipped my phone

430
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out and now i understand why people

431
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don't always do that when they encounter

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something because it's kind of

433
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overwhelming everybody's got a video

434
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camera i'm just waiting for images of

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people visiting

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having dot

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t

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enhance

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the nighttime footage for the show

440
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and we made a decision it's not it's not

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doing anything like that let's not

442
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enhance the footage it's not doctor the

443
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footage it's not make it look better

444
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than it is it's just presented the way

445
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we captured it

446
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and let people decide for themselves

447
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because that's not what the show was

448
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about we weren't trying to present

449
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anything that was fake or phony at all

450
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we just tried to capture whatever we

451
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could and present it and i think we were

452
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very lucky with some of it

453
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just like dallas had her first

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experience out there with us that was

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her very first and she

456
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felt something and she started crying

457
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and she was very emotional and

458
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it does happen

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i know this doesn't happen and maybe

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it's because people did have the

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intention of trying to make contact

462
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i don't know rather they just point up

463
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like you know a camera at the sky and

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just saying well nothing's there you

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consciously try and make that contact i

466
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mean i don't know if that's true but it

467
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seemed to happen most times when demi

468
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made that attempt demi

469
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demi seems like about that then like a

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magnet magnet right the magnet right

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quite literally like you said you've

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been out with

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quite a few other people and i'm sure

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there's intention

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to see and film something but

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we were surprised

477
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you know we're in the premiere episode

478
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for everybody who is watching uh how

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amazing

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that moment was where we were all in it

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and in that moment thank god we had

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cameras because you don't think about

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let me grab my phone and take my eyes

484
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off this absolutely miraculous moment

485
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but sometimes you cannot catch

486
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a little bit you can't capture it on

487
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film it's just like you said you can see

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it with your eye but when put on film no

489
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matter what kind of camera language you

490
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have you still can't capture it

491
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which is um but we did it we managed to

492
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get it that night with you guys you did

493
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get that night and because it was a

494
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chaotic night as a chaotic scene you

495
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know it was the first day of filming

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and

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when you guys all huddled around that

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ipad screen and watched that thing kind

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of moving down it was just like wow

500
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you know no one expected that to happen

501
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at all but it was it was it was

502
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fascinating

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i mean it

504
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it actually happened within minutes of

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looking

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which is surprising i tried speedfield

507
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this is not something this is you know

508
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we're talking possibly out of the

509
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atmosphere most likely it's so far away

510
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we had to use specialized cameras to

511
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look at it

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and uh but with this one you could see

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it with the naked eye as well and it was

514
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responding to the lasers that we were

515
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using it was really an incredible moment

516
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i know that we had a blast meeting them

517
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it was so much fun and youtube we had a

518
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lot of laughs debbie's got a very a

519
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great wonderful belly laugh i love it

520
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:38,400
they do they really do and it's it's you

521
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:39,760
know and that's one of the things i love

522
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about having dallas and matthew on the

523
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show is that it really brought out

524
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just demi being demi like not being the

525
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mega star

526
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um and if you want to know what it's

527
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,760
like to hang out with demi

528
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and just shoot the [\h__\h] this is like a

529
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great insight for any like oh yeah and

530
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it's like you just you know just hanging

531
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out and just matching even matthew like

532
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introducing you guys you know what the

533
00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:01,039
ufo bro is going to show us hoes i mean

534
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:02,000
you're not going to hit you're not going

535
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to hear nick pope say that on the show

536
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right hell no you're not oh let's see

537
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coming in hot with the probe

538
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:15,919
you know and we love nick because nick

539
00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:19,120
was coming in hot yeah i mean you know

540
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:21,039
we just wanted to show off their

541
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personality and what it was like to be

542
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:23,760
on the road with them it was kind of

543
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:25,760
like a coachella road trip with the

544
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hopes of seeing ufos i mean that was

545
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kind of like the the vibe of the show

546
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,039
yeah and i'm glad we went to sedona in

547
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this sedona episode to prepare demi

548
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,520
matthew and dallas

549
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mentally for this contact this attempt

550
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to contact demi undergoes remote viewing

551
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:43,200
training

552
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which uh you know

553
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:48,400
back in the 70s it started uh in this uh

554
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:50,960
cia program called project stargate

555
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where

556
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there were some people that ingo swann

557
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,520
was a guy who was trying to train

558
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,600
regular soldiers how to have psychic

559
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powers

560
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:01,200
and it wasn't just psychics doing mind

561
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,919
warfare against the soviets um like yuri

562
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:05,919
gala for example who was involved in it

563
00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:07,039
as well i don't know if you remember who

564
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:13,909
the spoon he was a big deal when i was a

565
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,760
kid back in england uh

566
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,919
but we put demi in this uh remote

567
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,679
viewing workshop

568
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:21,520
and we did two tests

569
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:24,400
and uh the one you see in the show

570
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,039
um was actually not the best results we

571
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,280
did another one and demi's results were

572
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:31,520
even better and it was so good no one

573
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,559
believed it

574
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:34,000
so we kind of took it out of the show

575
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,679
because it was kind of like well

576
00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,120
no one's going to believe danny was able

577
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,679
to do this this closely and it really

578
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240
was mind-blowing i mean no one

579
00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,480
could believe it so they want we did two

580
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,320
sessions the one in this we kept in the

581
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:48,880
show was the one that wasn't quite as

582
00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:51,280
accurate but it just seemed more

583
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:52,799
i don't know i just you know we didn't

584
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,640
want to i don't know but

585
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:56,160
we just thought it was kind of like if

586
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:57,200
we put the other one in no one's going

587
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:58,000
to believe they're going to think we

588
00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:59,280
staged the whole thing and it's just not

589
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,600
true demi does seem to have some

590
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,600
psychic ability

591
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,440
i completely agree

592
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,440
uh

593
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,799
we were talking to dallas and explained

594
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,240
that there's

595
00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:12,880
just jumping back to kind of i think why

596
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,559
you were you know seeing so many things

597
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,000
like joe and i

598
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:19,039
i think being there everybody there

599
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:22,000
you know looking for something to happen

600
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:25,440
number one same conscience but demi

601
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,320
demi has a lot of great consciousness a

602
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,200
lot of great spiritual

603
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,360
coming at demi and then everything just

604
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,440
wants to follow demi it's it's just

605
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,799
following

606
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:38,640
all the way down no matter where demi's

607
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:41,600
at it's just beaming on demi so anybody

608
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:43,600
who's around demi

609
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:46,159
it's everybody's experiencing it

610
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,760
and all over the world

611
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:50,080
do you think that

612
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:51,039
being

613
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,480
such a a

614
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,880
a performer such a fascinating kind of

615
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,159
personality do you think

616
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,039
if if et's exist you think they would

617
00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,120
look look to make contact with those

618
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,360
types of people

619
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,520
the people who are influences in society

620
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:09,520
the people who are kind of recognized i

621
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:10,640
mean it makes sense to me if you're a

622
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,080
hyper-intelligent life force and you

623
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,840
come here who are you going to reach out

624
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,880
to it's

625
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,720
it's probably the movers and the shakers

626
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,159
and the people who have that kind of

627
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:19,760
influence because i was looking at it

628
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,640
today there's a long history of

629
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,720
pop singers for example who've made

630
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,120
contact with ufos but there's a

631
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:28,640
photograph that i just found recently of

632
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,919
john lennon in 1965 with a ufo detector

633
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:33,600
that's home built for him

634
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,480
and he was fascinated in ufos and he had

635
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:38,720
his own sighting in new york in august

636
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:41,600
1974 and he called the police the police

637
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,480
came

638
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:43,679
and they said yeah you know a lot of

639
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,559
people saw a ufo tonight and the local

640
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,840
news came and there's footage you'll

641
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,200
find out on youtube with him talking to

642
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,360
the local news on his rooftop of where

643
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,840
the ufo moved past the u.n building and

644
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,919
down here and then he did drawings of it

645
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,760
i mean he was fascinated by this thing

646
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:58,559
um

647
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,919
elvis presley had ufo signs jimi hendrix

648
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,000
lemmy for motorhead keith richards i

649
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,640
mean i i was saying you know i wonder if

650
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,679
you know

651
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,760
these extraterrestrials

652
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,440
want to make themselves

653
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:13,600
known to certain people

654
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:16,159
who maybe they recognize as creatives or

655
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,440
artists or have something special

656
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,280
about them i i don't know you know it's

657
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:23,039
just it's not just that these famous

658
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,480
people are looking for this themselves

659
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,559
or happen to see it maybe you know you

660
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,400
need to open yourself up to these

661
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:30,640
sightings yourself

662
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:31,360
i

663
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,559
do

664
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:38,840
believe or they're in a place to witness

665
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,520
something there's so much

666
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,200
i use the word energy and i understand

667
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:46,000
that's sort of an esoteric term but

668
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:47,360
uh

669
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,679
i think there might be something that if

670
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,760
there are extraterrestrials they can see

671
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:53,360
the amount of

672
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,600
i don't use well you know the word fame

673
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,760
we can use but the attention that that

674
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:59,440
individual brings in terms of

675
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,799
consciousness

676
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,720
single unified consciences from people

677
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,240
all around the world

678
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,320
if i was able to detect that as an

679
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,080
extraterrestrial race i would probably

680
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,400
go to those people that have a you know

681
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,640
a good handle on a like demi and a

682
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,679
hundred and

683
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,159
you know plus million people that's

684
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,919
somebody you might want to

685
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,080
share something with

686
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:22,799
maybe yeah it kind of makes sense

687
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,280
it does it makes sense crazy way

688
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:26,880
i'd like to come full circle and talk

689
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,080
about the younger generation and

690
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,080
why they should become involved in this

691
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,679
why they should care

692
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,320
and

693
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:38,480
after that how can they get involved

694
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:39,600
more

695
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,320
what do you think i mean

696
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,640
i think you know

697
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:47,360
i think demi kind of describes it well

698
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,440
you know if there's something out there

699
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,279
they believe that these extraterrestrial

700
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,039
extraterrestrials are non-hostile in

701
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,840
fact they could probably help us somehow

702
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,760
you know a lot of people are you know

703
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,600
dismayed at what's going on in the world

704
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:03,679
with the environments and

705
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,159
you know divisions i mean maybe there's

706
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,480
something to it that if there is a

707
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,080
higher

708
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:12,559
being out there that's around us maybe

709
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,760
they're already here maybe they're not

710
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,679
traveling light years to come meet us

711
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,559
right

712
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,679
it doesn't make sense that they would be

713
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,440
traveling 249 million light years to

714
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,200
come visit us just to take a look it

715
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:22,799
makes more sense that they're actually

716
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,840
here and have always been here maybe

717
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,799
and

718
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,720
you know maybe they are just waiting for

719
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:30,159
us to reach out

720
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,840
in a positive way and maybe they have do

721
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,279
have an interest in this planet i mean

722
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,720
you know if they were going to destroy

723
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,440
us

724
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,720
they probably would have already done it

725
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,360
by now right yeah that's what we said

726
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,840
with dallas do i think a young

727
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,440
people can get their head around that i

728
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,720
think they can understand that and they

729
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,520
don't see the fear that we've been told

730
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,279
for so long by the government with you

731
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,279
know that's not real but you should also

732
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,960
be terrified of these things and we know

733
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,400
that there's been instances where the

734
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,240
government's got involved with making

735
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:01,120
movies in hollywood right you know uh

736
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,880
it's always a narrative though

737
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:04,080
scary

738
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,279
all the daily movies that are coming out

739
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,039
now are still we're fighting the aliens

740
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:08,480
we got to destroy them they're coming

741
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,360
together

742
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:11,279
nobody's had a really good depiction on

743
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:12,960
like skinny bob like

744
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,559
a really good skinny bob movie they had

745
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,360
hi i'm paul i love paul paul's cool but

746
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,120
i want something that's like they never

747
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,720
come out with a proper alien like

748
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,880
science was kind of close but they were

749
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:24,880
what about e.t

750
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,470
i think what joe's saying is like you've

751
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,559
seen the skinny pop clip

752
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:40,000
yeah it's really interesting that little

753
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,919
outfit he's got on is pretty cool how do

754
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:43,760
you think he gets that turtleneck over

755
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,559
that big ass exactly right

756
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,919
it's memory it's some sort of memory

757
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:49,600
metal that they use and just like sucks

758
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:52,320
back under his bro

759
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,190
again this is andrew knock executive

760
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,440
producer from unidentified with demi

761
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:05,919
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762
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,120
streaming on peacock go watch it

763
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:12,159
tweet us at real ufo bro

764
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:14,000
yes and we'll get back to you tell us

765
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,600
what it's like if you love it if you

766
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,960
have a good time if you're going to get

767
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,400
your friends together and go out and

768
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,720
everything thanks andrew so much man we

769
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,799
thank you guys so much for your time i

770
00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:24,799
appreciate it all right thank you bye

771
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:27,460
have a good day bye

772
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,120
[Music]

773
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,120
joe you weren't talking that much

774
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:39,919
i i i do yeah he just doesn't shut up

775
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:42,320
and i try to it's by the time i get my

776
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,760
quote in or what i want to say it's

777
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,120
already so anyway we're going to move

778
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:47,039
can you say aluminum

779
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:48,400
aluminium